The fundamental question of human evil is addressed in
Oscar-winning film “Son of Saul.” Hungarian actor Geza Rohrig plays the
main character in this death-camp film, but he was no ordinary actor
among Oscar contenders. He is a poet, novelist and teacher — and most of
all an Orthodox Jew. Adopted as a child by a Hungarian Jewish couple
whose relatives were murdered by the Nazis, Rohrig in his late teens
intensively studied the Holocaust, and made an extended visit to
Auschwitz. Rohrig’s character in the film, Saul, is a member of the
Sonderkommando — groups of Jewish prisoners forced to herd fellow Jews
into the gas chambers and dispose of their remains as part of the Nazis’
industrial process of extermination.
Q: How do you describe your own Jewish faith?
A: Modern Orthodox, I would say, with a little Hasidic touch.
Q: How did it come about?
A: That has a lot to do with Auschwitz. Immediately I had a sense that I
felt like I belong there. I started to examine this very strong
reaction of mine. Why can’t I just let go, and go back to the train
station? I rented a room and came back for a month. There’s a lot of
unburied dead people there. It’s the largest cemetery of Jews. Every
third victim in Auschwitz was Hungarian.
Q: Why would you want to engage that particular horrific slice of history?
A: We are talking about the heart of Europe in the middle of the 20th
century. With the cooperation of lawyers and doctors and architects and
the clergy, in front of their very own eyes 10,000 images of God were
gassed and burned every day in Auschwitz. I lost faith in man, and I
have a moral necessity to believe, and if I couldn’t believe in man,
that kind of led me to believe in God.
Q: Jews and many others, too, have remained perplexed and
agonized by this lasting question of how could a loving God have this
happen on his watch presiding over the human world? How have you
wrestled with it?
A: It’s very hard to justify God’s conduct in those years. Avraham
(Abraham), when he was trying to negotiate about the fate of Sodom and
Gomorrah, says, “Will the judge of the whole world not do justice? How
can you destroy the righteous with the wicked?” All I can tell you is
that whenever I came across an argument against God, I always found a
counterargument for God. It eventually comes down to the question of who
you are. If, by believing, you are more you, then you have to believe —
and I am more myself believing. I’m kind of disoriented if I try to
take a position that will deny the existence of God, because that’s not
who I am.
Q: So for you where was God in the death camps?
A: I believe God was right in the middle of it. God was not abandoning
his people. I think we are given free choice and God was suffering along
with everybody else who were suffering there. I think that he escorted
us all the way.
Q: Even into the gas chambers?
A: Yes. If I wouldn’t believe that, a million-and-a-half Jewish
children who were murdered upon arrival, then I would have no choice but
to spit God into his face. There is no other way to make this case of
God unless I believe that he was there.
Q: Can I ask about the role of the Sonderkommando? I gather
you’re dismayed at having had to take up the role of defending them.
What’s dismaying about that?
A: I really think that the most demonic aspect of Nazism was this sort
of division of labor, to leave the dirty work of the Holocaust to the
victims themselves. Let them burn their brothers and sisters. And by
doing that their innocence was taken away from them. They were kind of
dragged down to the rock bottom of the morality of the perpetrators.
Q: What do you see as the meaning of your character Saul’s
conviction that even around all this evil and nihilism he wanted to
achieve a proper burial for one young boy?
A: His pursuit is to bury this one boy. He can’t bury them all. He’s
going to bury this one. It’s his job, it’s his purpose from now on.
That’s what keeps him alive. I always defend Saul. People walk up to me
after screenings and they say “This guy is a fool, he is an idiot. What
difference does it make to bury one boy, when there are so many others
going in the oven?” And I say, “Listen, just because something is
impractical, it doesn’t mean that it’s not important or even not
substantial.” So for Saul this was absolutely paramount to make sure
this one is buried, and I think it’s beautiful.
Q: Do you fear future generations won’t feel connected to the Holocaust?
A: Younger generations, they go to Auschwitz and do selfies. It’s not a
lack of knowledge. These kids don’t deny it happened, they all know
it’s 6 million, they all know it’s gas. But they don’t feel it.
Q: Seventy-one years after the liberation of Auschwitz, are you hopeful?
A: I don’t think history turned a page. I think genocide is a permanent
possibility. And I thought the bloodiest possible century is just
behind us; the 21st must be much better. Well, 15 years into the 21st,
it doesn’t seem very promising.
David Tereshchuk is a reporter for PBS Religion & Ethics Newsweekly
Courtesy: Religion News Service
Photo: Hungarian actor Geza Rohrig plays the main character in the Oscar-winning motion picture “Son of Saul.”
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